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	<title>Comments on: Giving in, Not Giving Up</title>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you hit many issues right on the head. Just like any job, industry or anything, the effort and brains you put into your work is going to be exactly what you get out of it. It&#039;s an industry that needs strategic hard work, not blind effort. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you hit many issues right on the head. Just like any job, industry or anything, the effort and brains you put into your work is going to be exactly what you get out of it. It&#8217;s an industry that needs strategic hard work, not blind effort. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dennis</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2245</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job Taji.
jd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job Taji.<br />
jd</p>
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		<title>By: voxmarketising - the audio'connell blog and podcast</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2241</link>
		<dc:creator>voxmarketising - the audio'connell blog and podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As he points out, it&#8217;s ok to be concerned about your professional future (everyone always is) but if you prepare by giving yourself professional options, you can provide for both your family and your art.   Bookmark to:             Hide Sites    $$(&#039;div.d3486&#039;).each( function(e) { e.visualEffect(&#039;slide_up&#039;,{duration:0.5}) }); [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Strikwerda</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2240</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Strikwerda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let me add a few alternatives for those pros with lots of extra time on their hands due to lack of voice work:

1. Brush up your business skills. Go to a community college. Take a training. Get a mentor. Read up on marketing, advertising and sales. 

2. Study the competition. What are they doing that is working? How do they do it? What can you learn from them
and how can you carve out a niche for yourself?

3. Learn another language. Oral aerobics will  keep the muscles in your mouth in shape. Take acting classes. Get in shape. Join a choir.

4. Improve the way clients can find you, and make yourself less dependent on P2P&#039;s and agents. If you don&#039;t have a website, get one. Better still: learn how to design and update your own pages.

Personally, I do a few other things to compliment my voice-over business:

-I work as a translator; some voice-over clients ask me to translate a script and record it straight away
-On occasion, I work as an emcee (see my blog: http://nethervoice.com/nethervoice/2009/09/22/how-i-became-world-famous/)
-I&#039;m also a wedding officiant: there&#039;s nothing like marrying people! It&#039;s a joy and a privilege.
-I conduct media trainings and platform skills seminars
-Every now and then I do on-camera work through casting agencies. It&#039;s a great way to connect with clients that would not necessarily have found me as a voice-over talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me add a few alternatives for those pros with lots of extra time on their hands due to lack of voice work:</p>
<p>1. Brush up your business skills. Go to a community college. Take a training. Get a mentor. Read up on marketing, advertising and sales. </p>
<p>2. Study the competition. What are they doing that is working? How do they do it? What can you learn from them<br />
and how can you carve out a niche for yourself?</p>
<p>3. Learn another language. Oral aerobics will  keep the muscles in your mouth in shape. Take acting classes. Get in shape. Join a choir.</p>
<p>4. Improve the way clients can find you, and make yourself less dependent on P2P&#8217;s and agents. If you don&#8217;t have a website, get one. Better still: learn how to design and update your own pages.</p>
<p>Personally, I do a few other things to compliment my voice-over business:</p>
<p>-I work as a translator; some voice-over clients ask me to translate a script and record it straight away<br />
-On occasion, I work as an emcee (see my blog: <a href="http://nethervoice.com/nethervoice/2009/09/22/how-i-became-world-famous/)" rel="nofollow">http://nethervoice.com/nethervoice/2009/09/22/how-i-became-world-famous/)</a><br />
-I&#8217;m also a wedding officiant: there&#8217;s nothing like marrying people! It&#8217;s a joy and a privilege.<br />
-I conduct media trainings and platform skills seminars<br />
-Every now and then I do on-camera work through casting agencies. It&#8217;s a great way to connect with clients that would not necessarily have found me as a voice-over talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana from Serious Vanity Music</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana from Serious Vanity Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this awesome, *real* article.  This *is* what it takes.  I&#039;ve had some good strides in recent years, but it&#039;s been work to get there, and work to maintain.  More and more I&#039;m fielding questions from people with a &quot;good voice&quot; who see that I&#039;m doing ok, and want to take advantage of my contacts or the &quot;magic beans&quot; they feel I must have bought to get here.  And they&#039;re not seeing that I have about 20 other sources of income that I&#039;m constantly rotating to make sure there&#039;s a little coming in from all angles (and sometimes, there *still* isn&#039;t).  It feels good to at least be in good company that we&#039;re all going through the same things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this awesome, *real* article.  This *is* what it takes.  I&#8217;ve had some good strides in recent years, but it&#8217;s been work to get there, and work to maintain.  More and more I&#8217;m fielding questions from people with a &#8220;good voice&#8221; who see that I&#8217;m doing ok, and want to take advantage of my contacts or the &#8220;magic beans&#8221; they feel I must have bought to get here.  And they&#8217;re not seeing that I have about 20 other sources of income that I&#8217;m constantly rotating to make sure there&#8217;s a little coming in from all angles (and sometimes, there *still* isn&#8217;t).  It feels good to at least be in good company that we&#8217;re all going through the same things.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahmoud Taji</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2238</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahmoud Taji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michelle, 

As always your encouragement is highly appreciated. I just hope that some of the more established VO talents can take a good long look at how things are going financially for them and try to figure out if they need to supplement their income before its too late and the only option they have is to sell their assets. 

Taji</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michelle, </p>
<p>As always your encouragement is highly appreciated. I just hope that some of the more established VO talents can take a good long look at how things are going financially for them and try to figure out if they need to supplement their income before its too late and the only option they have is to sell their assets. </p>
<p>Taji</p>
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		<title>By: Mahmoud Taji</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2237</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahmoud Taji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul, Thanks for stopping by. 

The thing is, this article was written mostly for those established VO artists who work full time in the profession. I see them as the culmination of my efforts and where I would like to end up in a few years from now... but also I do not like to discourage the younger generation of VO artists because there has to be a constant influx or else the whole profession dies.

The ones that come in young and wide eyed will eventually wisen up. Yes they will do some damage... but nothing that will eventually won&#039;t get repaired... and like I said i the article... don&#039;t waste your time with the lesser paying clients who just want a job done for a budget and don&#039;t care how well the performance is. For those guys... they deserve the lowest bidder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul, Thanks for stopping by. </p>
<p>The thing is, this article was written mostly for those established VO artists who work full time in the profession. I see them as the culmination of my efforts and where I would like to end up in a few years from now&#8230; but also I do not like to discourage the younger generation of VO artists because there has to be a constant influx or else the whole profession dies.</p>
<p>The ones that come in young and wide eyed will eventually wisen up. Yes they will do some damage&#8230; but nothing that will eventually won&#8217;t get repaired&#8230; and like I said i the article&#8230; don&#8217;t waste your time with the lesser paying clients who just want a job done for a budget and don&#8217;t care how well the performance is. For those guys&#8230; they deserve the lowest bidder.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Summers</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written Taji!  I do believe this will be a wake up call for many talent out there &amp; will bring them hope.  THX for all you do for the community!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written Taji!  I do believe this will be a wake up call for many talent out there &amp; will bring them hope.  THX for all you do for the community!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Strikwerda</title>
		<link>http://voiceover-casting.com/emporium/giving-in-not-giving-up.html#comment-2235</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Strikwerda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always knew you were a mover and a shaker, Taji!

A couple of random thoughts:

1. Some voice-over sites have done an excellent job of making it look so easy to start a new career. Do you have a voice? Do you have a computer and a mic? Do you have a credit card? Congratulations: you&#039;re now a professional voice-over! People with experience and with no experience can compete on a level playing field. I know of no other profession where this is considered even remotely acceptable. This is setting folks up for failure.

2. It&#039;s easy to underestimate what it takes to be an independent contractor. I have seen incredibly talented people go under because they had zero business skills. Celebrity Photographer Annie Leibovitz nearly avoided bankruptcy this year, because she couldn&#039;t handle her finances.

3. Speaking of money: one of the reasons voice-overs can&#039;t make ends meet is because they mess up the market by underbidding on jobs that already have a ridiculously low budget. In an effort to secure short-terms gains, these people ruin their chances for a long lasting future, and in the end, all of us are paying the price. It&#039;s like global warming: this does not happen overnight and it&#039;s man-made.

4. To the people who stubbornly, intentionally or foolishly make the above mistakes, I have only one thing to say: GIVE UP. You&#039;re not going to make it. If you like to use your voice as a hobby, fine. Most people know that it&#039;s ludicrous to audition for a Broadway musical if you have little or no training or experience. So, why do you think it&#039;s any different in the world of voice-over acting? Stop auditioning. Read to hospitalized kids and people in retirement homes. You&#039;ll find it much more rewarding than using your voice to sell silly things nobody needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always knew you were a mover and a shaker, Taji!</p>
<p>A couple of random thoughts:</p>
<p>1. Some voice-over sites have done an excellent job of making it look so easy to start a new career. Do you have a voice? Do you have a computer and a mic? Do you have a credit card? Congratulations: you&#8217;re now a professional voice-over! People with experience and with no experience can compete on a level playing field. I know of no other profession where this is considered even remotely acceptable. This is setting folks up for failure.</p>
<p>2. It&#8217;s easy to underestimate what it takes to be an independent contractor. I have seen incredibly talented people go under because they had zero business skills. Celebrity Photographer Annie Leibovitz nearly avoided bankruptcy this year, because she couldn&#8217;t handle her finances.</p>
<p>3. Speaking of money: one of the reasons voice-overs can&#8217;t make ends meet is because they mess up the market by underbidding on jobs that already have a ridiculously low budget. In an effort to secure short-terms gains, these people ruin their chances for a long lasting future, and in the end, all of us are paying the price. It&#8217;s like global warming: this does not happen overnight and it&#8217;s man-made.</p>
<p>4. To the people who stubbornly, intentionally or foolishly make the above mistakes, I have only one thing to say: GIVE UP. You&#8217;re not going to make it. If you like to use your voice as a hobby, fine. Most people know that it&#8217;s ludicrous to audition for a Broadway musical if you have little or no training or experience. So, why do you think it&#8217;s any different in the world of voice-over acting? Stop auditioning. Read to hospitalized kids and people in retirement homes. You&#8217;ll find it much more rewarding than using your voice to sell silly things nobody needs.</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s easy? &#187; The Voiceover Boblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s easy? &#187; The Voiceover Boblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] December 22, 2009 by Bob My friend Mahmoud Taji has written a blog post about voiceover life in the current economic climate. Well worth a few minutes of your time to [...]</description>
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